[18:02:44] <aclark> i've given up on debating plone, just try to help move proj forward.
[18:03:00] <aclark> because the community behind it is stellar
[18:03:18] <kennethreitz> well getting them to use modern packaging tools is a start :)
[18:04:15] <aclark> kennethreitz: yeah but you can't just write it off like that. Zope2 grew Zope2-like features one of which is ZCML. And people needed a way to generate all these "slugs"; it was a reasonable choice at the time.